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bob orr is in washington. bob, good morning. >> good morning. we're in the middle of a broad-based cyber assault. it's on media circuits and websites. in the last month three major newspapers have all reported cyber attacks. e-mail systems have been breached and personal data lost to cyber spies' intent on stealing valuable information. kevin m kevin says most are being carried out by the inside chinese military. is there proof that the chinese government is sponsoring these attacks? >> it would be hard that they don't notice thousands of attacks coming out of their architectu architecture. >> mandia reports this is the place. security guards chase them away. u.s. officials say hieber headquarterses each year are steal 2g $50 billion worth of u.s. trade secrets. now a white house report warns the pace of economic espionage and trade secret theft is accelerating and jeopardizing our status for the world's innovation and creativity. in response the obama administration is promising to increase d increase diplomatic pressure and trade policies. in
bob orr is in washington. bob, good morning. >> good morning. we're in the middle of a broad-based cyber assault. it's on media circuits and websites. in the last month three major newspapers have all reported cyber attacks. e-mail systems have been breached and personal data lost to cyber spies' intent on stealing valuable information. kevin m kevin says most are being carried out by the inside chinese military. is there proof that the chinese government is sponsoring these attacks?...
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"outfront" tonight, hurting the poor because washington has no courage. again today, all we heard was blame when it comes to the forced spending cuts to take effect in eight days. president obama made some talk radio appearances. >> whether or not we can move republicans at this point to do the right thing is what we're still trying to gauge. >> now, he's called the cuts severe and brutal. house speaker john boehner, guess what, completely agrees with that. he's called them deep and dangerous, but they're not doing anything about it. here's the thing about the cuts. they're going to hurt some people that nobody wants to hurt. people already in pain, more than 4 million homebound and disabled seniors may have to go without dinner this year because of cuts to meals on wheels programs in the forced cuts. 70,000 children from lower income families will not be able to enroll in preschools and day care centers because of the forced spending cuts. the owners of about 10,000 homes and small businesses destroyed by hurricane sandy won't get the money needed for re
"outfront" tonight, hurting the poor because washington has no courage. again today, all we heard was blame when it comes to the forced spending cuts to take effect in eight days. president obama made some talk radio appearances. >> whether or not we can move republicans at this point to do the right thing is what we're still trying to gauge. >> now, he's called the cuts severe and brutal. house speaker john boehner, guess what, completely agrees with that. he's called...
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let's bring in john harwood in washington. john, this is part after constant drum beat from the white house and his team, obama's team that if we go through the sequester, it is bad, bad, bad. >> exactly right, simon. who what the white house is doing is a steady application of pressure on republicans in congress hoping this he will accept ultimately tax increases as part of a budget deal. ray whlahood, former republicanf congress, walked into the briefing room and said you may not see the effects immediately but they will be very real and build over time. here is ray lahood. >> it will ripple across the country. cuts mean preventative maintenance and quick repair of runway equipment may not be possible which could lead to more delays. >> what you heard was a hundred small airport towers could be shut down. control towers because of lack of funding. you will see 90-minute delays. furloughs every week. visitors centers, rest rooms, garbage cans won't be serviced as efficiently as they are now. again, they are trying to build a
let's bring in john harwood in washington. john, this is part after constant drum beat from the white house and his team, obama's team that if we go through the sequester, it is bad, bad, bad. >> exactly right, simon. who what the white house is doing is a steady application of pressure on republicans in congress hoping this he will accept ultimately tax increases as part of a budget deal. ray whlahood, former republicanf congress, walked into the briefing room and said you may not see...
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a budget battle in washington dc could have a ripple effect on air travel across the country. the obama administration is warning the so called sequester could be devastating. >> flights to major cities like new york, chicago, san francisco and others could experience delays up to 90 minutes during peak hours. >> reporter: it is a high stakes debate with $85 billion in potential cuts on the line. >> i think for the most part posturing on both sides. yeah, posturing. >> reporter: transportation officials say is he quest ration could force furloughs of air traffic controllers. control towers across the country would close. in maryland, towers at five regional and local airports could close. like martin state airport in baltimore county. [ audio difficulty ] >>> all right here in maryland, if those spending cuts do go into effect those five regional airports would close starting april 1st. back to you. >> thank you kai. spending cuts take effect at control towers at regional airports would shut down as kai indicated starting april 1st. >>> justice department and postal service go
a budget battle in washington dc could have a ripple effect on air travel across the country. the obama administration is warning the so called sequester could be devastating. >> flights to major cities like new york, chicago, san francisco and others could experience delays up to 90 minutes during peak hours. >> reporter: it is a high stakes debate with $85 billion in potential cuts on the line. >> i think for the most part posturing on both sides. yeah, posturing. >>...
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bob orr is in washington. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah. we're in the middle of a broad-based cyber asalt. the latest victims are u.s. media companies and social networking sites. in just the last month, apple, facebook twitter and three major u.s. newspapers have all reported cyber attacks. e-mail systems have been breached and personal data lost. to cyber spies intent on stealing valuable information. >> there's a lot of evidence that points back to china. >> reporter: kevin mandiant just issued a detailed report claiming most cyber attacks are carried out by teams inside the chinese military. is there proof that the chinese government is sponsoring these attacks? >> it would be hard to imagine in an enclosed society where they monitor internet use they don't notice thousands of attacks coming out of their architecture. >> reporter: mandiant identifies this military headquarters in shanghai as a base of cyber operations. china denies that but when cnn cameras approached the building security guards chased them away. >> drive away drive aw
bob orr is in washington. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah. we're in the middle of a broad-based cyber asalt. the latest victims are u.s. media companies and social networking sites. in just the last month, apple, facebook twitter and three major u.s. newspapers have all reported cyber attacks. e-mail systems have been breached and personal data lost. to cyber spies intent on stealing valuable information. >> there's a lot of evidence that points back to...
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or it is if you believe everything that you hear out of washington. today again president obama rang the alarm bells on the four spending cuts that are set to take effect seven days from now. >> i've been very clear that these kinds of arbitrary automatic cuts would have an adverse impact on families, on teachers, on parents who are reliant on head start programs, on our military readiness, on mental health services on medical search. >> you heard a bit of it there, especially from democrats you're hearing we'll have trouble fighting wildfires, airplanes, security lines will be long, all sorts of things. how much of that is true? how much of it is politics? how do we react to that? "outfront," daniel altman, economics professor at nyu, it political columnist for "newsweek" and "the daily beast." you listened to all this talk about all these dire implications, is it real or is it scare tactics? >> some of it is definitely real. if you look at the figures we're looking at maybe 70,000 kids getting kicked out of head start programs. we're looking at a $1
or it is if you believe everything that you hear out of washington. today again president obama rang the alarm bells on the four spending cuts that are set to take effect seven days from now. >> i've been very clear that these kinds of arbitrary automatic cuts would have an adverse impact on families, on teachers, on parents who are reliant on head start programs, on our military readiness, on mental health services on medical search. >> you heard a bit of it there, especially from...
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both chambers on recess this week he has the stage here in washington all to himself. >> i'm hoping while they're back home, they're hearing it from their constituents so when they get back here, they're ready to do some work and we can avoid these automatic spending cuts. >> but congressmen back home may not be getting the earful the president's hoping for. while nearly half of the americans want to avoid it less than 40% want to let it happen and some of capitol hill agree with the 40%. >> not only should the sequester stand. many pundits say the sequester falls short. >> if the cuts kick in, that same poll shows more people would blame republicans in congress than the president. now some areas these budget cuts will not affect social security medicare, medicaid, and food stamps. anne-marie, the projections say eventually half a point will be shaved off gdp because of these cuts. >> wow, it's going to be a tense few days. thank you, susan mcginnis in washington. >>> on the "cbs moneywatch," getting the dreamliner off the ground and the heinz takeover under investigation. ines ferr
both chambers on recess this week he has the stage here in washington all to himself. >> i'm hoping while they're back home, they're hearing it from their constituents so when they get back here, they're ready to do some work and we can avoid these automatic spending cuts. >> but congressmen back home may not be getting the earful the president's hoping for. while nearly half of the americans want to avoid it less than 40% want to let it happen and some of capitol hill agree with...
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. >> lincoln has really been using washington, d.c., they had a special screening for barack obama at the white house. they came back and had a big screening for the u.s. senate, that was sort of unprecedented. >> reporter: and his pick for best picture is going to benefit from its historical setting and it political momentum among oscar voters. >> you have to go with argo. i can't think of a woman that's won golden globe, critic's choice, zag oig,s.a.g., behalaf on to lose best picture. it's a toss up for best director, but i can see it going to ann lee. >> reporter: con kif they split vote there, could be a surprise from the star of the french film >> reporter: although best actor category seem like a lock. >> daniel day-lewis has been winning everything. plus he's playing abraham lincoln. >> reporter: so we will see who gets to become part oaron sunda. a.j. hammer, cnn, hollywood. >> so you and i both saw argo. really liked it. >> zero dark 30 i saw, as well. having spent time in afghanistan and seeing what took place there, as well. again, no documentary. 2k07 don't think that's h
. >> lincoln has really been using washington, d.c., they had a special screening for barack obama at the white house. they came back and had a big screening for the u.s. senate, that was sort of unprecedented. >> reporter: and his pick for best picture is going to benefit from its historical setting and it political momentum among oscar voters. >> you have to go with argo. i can't think of a woman that's won golden globe, critic's choice, zag oig,s.a.g., behalaf on to lose...
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danielle notingham reports for wjz from washington. >> the obama administration is warning americans, they'll feel the effects of automatic budget cuts at the airport. >> if more than half of our employees are at the f.a.a., the f.a.a., there has to be some impact. >> reporter: transportation secretary ray lahood said the flying public will start to feel the spending cuts set to kick in next friday. he expects up to 90-minute delays at large airports during peak travel times, while some smaller, regional airports may have to shut downault. he warned lawmakers they're going to hear about it. >> their phones are going to start ringing. why does this have to happen? >> reporter: long delays could be just the start for headaches for travelers. they say if air traffic controllers are forced to stay home, airlines could be forced to cancel flights. >> reporter: meeting with the japanese prime minister friday, president obama said avoiding these cuts should be a no- brainer. >> hope springs eternal. and i will keep making my case not only to congress but more importantly to the american peop
danielle notingham reports for wjz from washington. >> the obama administration is warning americans, they'll feel the effects of automatic budget cuts at the airport. >> if more than half of our employees are at the f.a.a., the f.a.a., there has to be some impact. >> reporter: transportation secretary ray lahood said the flying public will start to feel the spending cuts set to kick in next friday. he expects up to 90-minute delays at large airports during peak travel times,...
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gop has criticized the obama administration for a lack of transparency. white house officials say they've already turned over more than 10,000 pages of documents. >>> staying in washington, where white house and congress are playing right now a high stakes game of chicken. they're fighting over these forced spending cuts set to go into effect march 1st, a few days away. but, really, the question is, do they effect you? what's the trickle down if there's no deal? cnn's chief business correspondent ali velshi takes a look. >> reporter: forced government spending cuts take effect march 1st. it's what washington has been calling the sequester. it's a stupid name for a stupid thing. >> these kus are not smart. they are not fair. they will hurt our economy, add hundreds of thousands of americans to the unemployment line. this is not an abstraction. people will lose their jobs. >> $85 billion this year, $1.2 trillion over ten years. that's 13% cuts to defense, 9% to everything else. >> we're weeki ins away from th president's sequester and the president laid out
gop has criticized the obama administration for a lack of transparency. white house officials say they've already turned over more than 10,000 pages of documents. >>> staying in washington, where white house and congress are playing right now a high stakes game of chicken. they're fighting over these forced spending cuts set to go into effect march 1st, a few days away. but, really, the question is, do they effect you? what's the trickle down if there's no deal? cnn's chief business...
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. >> reporter: a budget battle in washington, d.c. could have a ripped effect on air travel across the country. the obama administration is warning that the sequester could be devastating. >> flights to major cities like new york, chicago, san francisco and others could experience delays up to 90 minutes during peak hours. >> reporter: a high stake degrees bait with $85 billion of cuts on the line. >> i think it is posturing on both sides. >> reporter: transportation officials are saying that it could stop air-traffic controllers. in maryland the towers at five regional and national airports could close. >> these controllers provide an important function in the congested and busy airspace. >> is also possibility that tsa screeners could be furloughed. if it happens there could be lengthy delays at security checkpoints. passengers here at bwi is saying any delays greater than what they experience would be a big headache. >> someone who travels for business it is a concern. i'm in the airport two to three time as week. the last thing i
. >> reporter: a budget battle in washington, d.c. could have a ripped effect on air travel across the country. the obama administration is warning that the sequester could be devastating. >> flights to major cities like new york, chicago, san francisco and others could experience delays up to 90 minutes during peak hours. >> reporter: a high stake degrees bait with $85 billion of cuts on the line. >> i think it is posturing on both sides. >> reporter:...
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however, is out with its headline today saying obama over playing his hand on the sequester saying obama is convinced he's got the upper hand on republicans yet he can only go, or yet he can go only so long before he risks being perceived as a main actor in washington's dysfunction, threatening a core element of his political brand. so the other side of this is the fact that people see, you know, the president as not being willing to pony up to the table when it comes to spending cuts. however, when we saw him earlier this week give remarks on that, he did talk about knowing that the common sense approach is the fact that we need more revenue and we need to cut. >> well, you know, with all due respect to the president, he doesn't have a vote on this, on sequester. this is the institution that is led by speaker boehner so we can talk about who is to blame or who's -- has the initiative or who should be doing what but the fact is we're not in session this week. we've got a week to go before these cuts come into play. speaker boehner is the only one who can craft some kind of action in the
however, is out with its headline today saying obama over playing his hand on the sequester saying obama is convinced he's got the upper hand on republicans yet he can only go, or yet he can go only so long before he risks being perceived as a main actor in washington's dysfunction, threatening a core element of his political brand. so the other side of this is the fact that people see, you know, the president as not being willing to pony up to the table when it comes to spending cuts. however,...
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they took a look at this front page story as we did in the washington times today. quote, obama agenda is risky for red state democrats. guy cecil has good news for democrats. he pulled a rabbit, rather a donkey, out of his hat last year when the democrats gained seats. actually gained seats in a year that looked like a sure loser for democrats. that's his job to pull off another miracle and hang onto the senate. maggie has beenerman is at politi politico, a senior politico reporter. this is important although it's a year and a half off, people want to know how obama is going to make it. is he going to put points on the board, immigration reform, something on gun safety. he be likes to talk about himself being a center left version i think of a ronald reagan meaning he wants to get into the history books. the question is can he do it with a republican house? probably not. he's hoping to switch it. let's talk about the senate, however. a lot of people in the democratic party are lucky to be in the senate because they don't match up with the way those states vote in p
they took a look at this front page story as we did in the washington times today. quote, obama agenda is risky for red state democrats. guy cecil has good news for democrats. he pulled a rabbit, rather a donkey, out of his hat last year when the democrats gained seats. actually gained seats in a year that looked like a sure loser for democrats. that's his job to pull off another miracle and hang onto the senate. maggie has beenerman is at politi politico, a senior politico reporter. this is...
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but the idea that there's nothing to cut in washington is crazy. do you know what president obama counted as one of his budget cuts in 2011? in 2010 we did the u.s. sencens. the fact that we didn't do it again in 2011 as a $6 billion budget cut. all the president's budget cuts are wars we're not going to fight so we're not going to have to pay for them. there's a lot of elusiory smoke and mirrors in the president's cuts. these are real cuts but right now -- >> these are real cuts that will inflict wounds on ordinary american and especially the middle class. >> hold on. >> donna, it's the most painful way to teach us a lesson. >> because alex, all you're talking about is cuts. the president said put it all on the table and the republicans are saying we cannot take about raising revenues. we have a revenue as well as a spending problem and until we address both of them we are not going to find our way out of this. >> a congressional delegation has come back from cuba. donna, i know you've been to cuba. alex, you're a cuban-american. senator leahy met
but the idea that there's nothing to cut in washington is crazy. do you know what president obama counted as one of his budget cuts in 2011? in 2010 we did the u.s. sencens. the fact that we didn't do it again in 2011 as a $6 billion budget cut. all the president's budget cuts are wars we're not going to fight so we're not going to have to pay for them. there's a lot of elusiory smoke and mirrors in the president's cuts. these are real cuts but right now -- >> these are real cuts that...
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to washington, d.c. now where a baltimore woman got a major pat on the back from president obama. her name is janice jackson. she has a way of motivating everyone around her. >> it's not every day you get an invitation to the white house. it's not every day you meet someone like janice jackson. the nation's second highest in honor. >> recognized by the pledges he is doing. he told me i looked pretty today. i told him you look pretty also. i didn't know what to say. i was in ah. awe. >> janice jackson was singled out by a nonprofit that empowers women with disabilities. women embracing abilities now or wean. this moment took 29 years of over coming personal adversity. at 24 janice was hit by a car and paralyzed. if she was lucky she would move her shoulders. >> as she recovered and regained her strength she resolved to give that strength to others in need. this dine mow is a professor at the university of baltimore a cover girl model and wean's engine. the group has helped more than 1,000 newly disabled women learn how to be and feel like women again. >> she needs to shine not your
to washington, d.c. now where a baltimore woman got a major pat on the back from president obama. her name is janice jackson. she has a way of motivating everyone around her. >> it's not every day you get an invitation to the white house. it's not every day you meet someone like janice jackson. the nation's second highest in honor. >> recognized by the pledges he is doing. he told me i looked pretty today. i told him you look pretty also. i didn't know what to say. i was in ah. awe....
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. >> these blame games are what washington is all b. president obama has proved himself very good to play this game. he has a strong hand right now. in the current situation with the $16 trillion in debt both republicans and democrat vs. plenty of blame. but it's kind of unusual in this particular case to have president obama complaining about the sequester, since bob woodward's book clearly pins the impetus for the sequester on the white house. the white house came up with this back before the election, because president obama really didn't want to have another big fight about the debt ceiling and everything and he wanted to give some sort of cuts to republicans in order to get past the election. and then he succeeded and here we are now where these cuts are about to take effect. we've kicked the can down the road a couple of times now, and now that he's securely reelected he really doesn't want to have these cuts go into effect. and he's desperate to find some other way of lessening the concerns of republicans who are very concerned a
. >> these blame games are what washington is all b. president obama has proved himself very good to play this game. he has a strong hand right now. in the current situation with the $16 trillion in debt both republicans and democrat vs. plenty of blame. but it's kind of unusual in this particular case to have president obama complaining about the sequester, since bob woodward's book clearly pins the impetus for the sequester on the white house. the white house came up with this back...
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>> because there is a lack of leadership in washington. president obama only plays class warfare. he attacks the republicans for being agents of the rich. he is not serious. the republicans have no narrative, no argument, no plan of their own. both sides are playing politics. >> it is worse than that. we have cuts that are not across the board cuts but selected cuts, we are not touching social security or medicare or entitlements which are driving the cost up, and health care, which is driving the costs, they are not touched. these are selective cuts, and are triggered across the board and they have been offered for flexibility so we do not -- the president is running around predicting a situation that it will be fearmongerring situation. they are not interested in this. this is all about politics. the problem is, only one side is beingix] that is the president. >> but the governors are turning the corner if most of their states and you can hear their frustration. their economies are starting to stablize but with the stabilizing, when the sequestration cuts take place, it can spen
>> because there is a lack of leadership in washington. president obama only plays class warfare. he attacks the republicans for being agents of the rich. he is not serious. the republicans have no narrative, no argument, no plan of their own. both sides are playing politics. >> it is worse than that. we have cuts that are not across the board cuts but selected cuts, we are not touching social security or medicare or entitlements which are driving the cost up, and health care, which...
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wyatt andrews is in our washington beer you with washington bureau with the latest. good morning. >> good morning, rebecca. we're down to four days when these deep budget cuts again. president obama's key argument is it will cost jobs and hurt the recover i economy. >> my hope is we can see a different course taken by congress. this should be a no-brainer. >> reporter: the president has spend part of the last nine days appearing with the schoolchildren who could lose their teachers and with the first first responders who say they could lose their jobs if the spending money supporting them is cut across the board. i've been very clear that these kinds of arbitrary automatic cuts would have an adverse impact on family on teachers on parents who are reliant on head start programs on our military readiness, on medical health services medical research. this is not a smart way to reduce the deficit. >> reporter: but they point out the cuts will be gradual and very few policemen are paid with federal money. >> it's untrue unfair dishonest, disingenuous. he puts law enforcem
wyatt andrews is in our washington beer you with washington bureau with the latest. good morning. >> good morning, rebecca. we're down to four days when these deep budget cuts again. president obama's key argument is it will cost jobs and hurt the recover i economy. >> my hope is we can see a different course taken by congress. this should be a no-brainer. >> reporter: the president has spend part of the last nine days appearing with the schoolchildren who could lose their...
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in washington. you know, politicians do favors for donors. if it was just that, i don't think we would be really talking about senator menendez. it's this allegation that's upping the ante with prostitutes and teenage sex that's getting all the buzz, and oh, by the way, he's also trying to help out with this business deal down there. >> and let me add -- >> i wanted to say, melanie, you point out that this story, this whole issue, really offers all of us a window into how washington really works. how so? >> well, it's so frequent that politicians are doing huge favors for their biggest donors. this is in fact why we have an earmark ban, because there was such a problem with appropriators using appropriations to give gifts to their largest campaign donors. here we have new ways members of congress are finding to use their influence to help their biggest donors. and we also have senator menendez reaching out to health and human services when there was a medicare problem that this melgen was facing, an
in washington. you know, politicians do favors for donors. if it was just that, i don't think we would be really talking about senator menendez. it's this allegation that's upping the ante with prostitutes and teenage sex that's getting all the buzz, and oh, by the way, he's also trying to help out with this business deal down there. >> and let me add -- >> i wanted to say, melanie, you point out that this story, this whole issue, really offers all of us a window into how washington...
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festivities in washington, was shot dead about a mile from the first family's chicago home. first lady michelle obama attended her funeral last weekend, and the president highlighted her death in his appeal for new gun laws in tuesday's state of the union address. >> hadiya's parents, nate and cleo, are in this chamber tonight, along with more than two dozen americans whose lives have been torn apart by gun violence. they deserve a vote. ( applause ) they deserve a vote. gabby giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a vote. >> warner: echoes of the mass shootings in newtown also hung over a morning ceremony at the white house today, as mr. obama awarded presidential citizens medals. six of the 18 recipients were educators who died trying to protect students at sandy hook elementary school. to help put this in focus, we are joined by lynn sweet. she's a columnist and washington bureau chief for the "chicago sun-times," and has covered the windy city for decades. lynn, welcome back. watching this event today t seemed a very personal one for president obama. >
festivities in washington, was shot dead about a mile from the first family's chicago home. first lady michelle obama attended her funeral last weekend, and the president highlighted her death in his appeal for new gun laws in tuesday's state of the union address. >> hadiya's parents, nate and cleo, are in this chamber tonight, along with more than two dozen americans whose lives have been torn apart by gun violence. they deserve a vote. ( applause ) they deserve a vote. gabby giffords...
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to the left of the obama administration's foreign policy agenda. was on the fringe of the senate. you are talking about a person whose voting record shows softness on iran and and antagonism on israel beyond belief. the fact that they wanted to cloture vote thursday was unreasonable. we voted senator kerry out in the same day because there was no don't veronica moser i have. controversy. we offered to hold the vote until after the break. that wasn't good enough. they wanted to force this issue. so i'm glad that we have got more time to look and i'm glad he answered my question about a very disturbing comment he allegedly made. so i think we doing our job to scrutinize i think one of the most unqualified radical choices for secretary of defense in a very long time. >> chris: well, let me ask you a question about that. if he is so radical and unqualified if you get the information you are seeking on him and on benghazi and we will get to that in a moment, why wouldn't you still continue to try to block him? >> well, because i do believe the president
to the left of the obama administration's foreign policy agenda. was on the fringe of the senate. you are talking about a person whose voting record shows softness on iran and and antagonism on israel beyond belief. the fact that they wanted to cloture vote thursday was unreasonable. we voted senator kerry out in the same day because there was no don't veronica moser i have. controversy. we offered to hold the vote until after the break. that wasn't good enough. they wanted to force this issue....